. >> remember what happened in saddam hussein's iraq. if the team lost at football they were killed. >> it's not out of the ordinary. >> i don't for this cultural exchange. >> it does work. ping-pong diplomacy. it does -- it can work. >> but if all you are meeting is the functionary of -- >> right -- >> a goodwill ambassador sent by the country. >> but with a -- the system of concentration camps that is different than china. >> you and i know all this. >> the fact that they didn't do any research before going to me is -- >> you and i know all this. but i will say always worth going to these places to try to see what is going on and report a little bit. but i'm disappointed with what has come out from this team. >> we know how bad it is, but the silver lining of their continued persistence in travel there it has elevated the level of corruption in north korea. it may legitimatize it but americans have a sense of how bad it is in north korea. >> not to these guys because they are drinking cognac and smoking cigars and going skiing. >>> if